Sunday, October 07, 2007

AddThis

Continuing the talk about education (US, Taiwanese, and France)

NOTE: We're leaving for vacation tomorrow morning for a couple of days, so I've got to stop writing. I'll probably clean this up and add some more to it in a couple of days.

I was caught the other day by one of Mark's posts at Doubting to Shuo that referenced a 20/20 report called "Stupid in America." I had linked to the same video on the blog I kept while I was living in Paris. At the time, I was readying The World is Flat for the first time, and I was floored by just how bad we were doing in the US when it comes to education.

Granted, I had known there were serious problems -- like this one (pdf). Take a look at the first two, compared to the last one:

Now, I still have serious concerns about the US education system, but over the years it's come to be much less out of fear for how it compares to other countries. This is largely as a result of having studied in France and teaching in Taiwan.

I went to France, thinking it was a paradigm for scholarly enrichment, only to find that the French education system is in shambles, having become an elitist system where everyone is guaranteed a diploma (which denigrates the value of the diploma), while the rich can still get an education that's worth a damn at the Grandes écoles.

Instead of being a center of knowledge, France now actually has a its own brain drain. I watched it happening before my eyes, as one teacher broke down in front of the class (after finding out the campus would be blocked in protest against the CPE) and said that she had turned down offers to teach at a university in New York, but that she would now take it.

Of course, Sarkozy is trying to change this and is, unsurprisingly, being accused of "Americanizing" the French university system:

Well, thankfully, Sarkozy is trying to change that:

President Nicolas Sarkozy says this picture is emblematic of much that is wrong with France, which seeks to recapture its economic luster and key role in international affairs.

Many students fear the new president is out to abolish the French university as they know it, and are plotting resistance. Campuses, long a flashpoint of protest in France, are shaping up as the first battleground for Sarkozy’s grand plans for reform.

Of course, most of the protest is in fear of what is believed to be “Americanization” of the French education system. Lets see a couple of comparisons between the two systems:

Nearly 40 years later, the free and democratic universities are producing far fewer graduates than their much more costly counterparts in the United States. In 2005, 14 percent of adults had a university education in France, compared to 29 percent in the United States, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

[Jean-Robert] Pitte, president of the Sorbonne, says the French system just produces dropouts. Forty-five percent of Sorbonne students do not complete their first year, and 55 percent do not earn a degrees. Without entrance standards, there is a “selection-by-failure” that squanders resources and professors’ time on students who “have no real chance of success,” he said.

The problem isn’t simply the students who do not finish, it’s the ten percent of the student body who don’t even go to class. These are the “phantom students” who enroll for the health benefits and the student ID they can use to get discounts on things like train and movie tickets.

Here’s the kicker:

Free universities aren’t the only choice for French students. There’s also a parallel system of “grandes ecoles” that educates the French elite.

With 6 percent of post-secondary students, the grandes ecoles have difficult entrance exams and charge tuition of up to $6,700 a year, but offer small classes and graduate nearly all the country’s business leaders and politicians.

So all this egalitarianism has done for the poorer students in France is a shoddy system that doesn’t really give them any more access to what the elites are still getting. This is why living in France, you will almost never see a minority politician/businessman. Most of my French friends laugh at the idea of a poor kid growing up to be a wealthy and successful — unless he’s good at soccer or he can rap.

I went to France thinking the US was screwed, only to have my pride in the American system stoked by nearly all of my professors and classmates.

Then there's Taiwan. Which was the subject of one of Michael Turton's recent posts, in response to the one at Doubting to Shuo:
What is the function of all this advancement? First, it is important to stop thinking about Taiwanese education as education. Education means enhancement where Mark and I come from, but education in Taiwan is not an enhancement process, it is a weeding out process. In Taiwan we should stop thinking about education and start thinking about competition. The work is piled on at the beginning, in order to weed out the weak and the inferior and the lazy. This reaches a crescendo in the high schools: but notice the colleges -- they are nowhere near as good as their counterparts in the US. How can it be that such great kids in elementary school produce such awful colleges? People forget that the educational system is a system -- it starts in kindergarten and extends through the PHD programs. The US system, which does not exist to weed out kids, sensibly distributes its tasks throughout the school years.

This weeding out in high school is brutal and overt. There are high schools in which the best students on academic track are placed all in one class and given all the resources they need, and the best teachers, while everyone else is triaged into inferior classes with inferior resources. Some might enthuse about the system here...right up to the moment that they find their 16 year old son has been triaged into a class full of hopeless future local gangsters, an experience a friend of mine had. Then an epiphany about the system may strike.

By the same token, another part of the system often elided in discussions of the educational system here is the cram school system. It is dangerous to simply blink it out of existence simply because it is after school or somewhat illegal. In many ways it is the educational system here. Right up through college, innumerable teachers run cram schools at night, teaching the same students they teach during the day. The two systems interact in many ways -- they use the same teachers and curriculum, handouts, textbooks....and teaching methods. In some high schools you won't get passed in the class of teacher X unless you go to to teacher X's cram school classes. The effects are obvious: if students in the US went to class from 7 in the morning until 11 at night, they would also know lots and lots of stuff -- memorized, and promptly forgotten for the test.
I've written a fair amount about this too. While there are certainly aspects of the Taiwanese system that impress me -- it's focus on math and science -- I don't think it's the best. Notably for the reasons that Michael mentioned. The system itself is unreasonable, ineffective, nerve-wracking, and superficial.

Then there's this, which almost made me laugh at how anyone could consider this "news" because, well, there's nothing novel about it. It's like a headline that reads "Farting may cause unpleasant odors" -- OF COURSE TAIWANESE KIDS ARE SLEEP DEPRIVED! I have students that have class until 10PM, and they have to get up at half past six in the morning to go to school. After class, they still have to go home and do their homework, because they went to another buxiban before they came to their English cram school.

Finally, this is an article that I've posted in its entirety, because it was published somewhere else, and there is no link to give. To sum everything else up, despite it's faults, my experience with the three leads me to believe that the US education system is on a better track than the Taiwanese (Asian even?) or French (plenty of other European systems, too).

Here's the article. I welcome any comments or criticism (but I'm leaving tomorrow for three days at Sun Moon Lake):
When do you eat breakfast?’ Number 3, go!” Before I even finish saying their number, two students jump up and charge the whiteboard. Both of them slide and hit the wall with a thud, unable to stop for sheer speed. Without missing a beat, they’re scribbling furiously in a chaotic blur of erasers and markers.

“Do! When do eat breakfast! No does,” three students are screaming on team one. “When do —” their teammate’s creative spelling of the word “berkfest.” Jack is standing on his chair barking out the correct spelling, “B-R-E-A-K-F-A-S-T!” expelling each letter with all of the air he can fit in his tiny, little lungs.

I feel my ears are starting to bleed, as the fever pitch of a dozen ten- and 11-year-olds is grows to one incomprehensible, 200-decibel roar.

“Quiiieet!” I turn away from the board. All mouths immediately go shut. It’s as though some near disaster has been averted, and a momentary calm settles over us. My heart starts beating normally, and I feel myself inhaling and exhaling at normal intervals. “Sit —“

“Down” they finish, quite used to the routine of a heated grammar competition.

“Tony, big w,” I say, and he hectically erases “when,” putting “When” in its place.

With the question completed, both teams hand the marker to the next person whose charge it is to give this problem an answer. As usual, one simple unheeded correction — forgotten words, badly chosen prepositions, etc. — spirals out of control, and team members are jumping up and down, running in circles, screaming red-faced, begging so-and-so to please change “going” to “go” or “in” to “at” or “to.”

“Joanne, you so suhtoopid!” Jack yells with his hands squeezing his head in feigned frustration, or psychosis, as though he’s trying to crush his own head.

My Taiwanese co-teacher is laughing in the corner, looking over at Jack as she grades the class’s homework.

“She’s not stupid, Jack,” I tell him, “Anyway, you’re crazy.”

to touch his nose with his bottom teeth, twirls twice with his hands bouncing in the air, then plops down in his chair, only to stand right back up as Joanne runs back to her seat, having finished her answer.

“When do you eat breakfast?” team two yells — led by Jack, who is dancing to the rhythm of the words he’s saying — “I eat breakfast after I go to school.” They pronounce eat like “ee-tah” and breakfast “boo-rek-oo-fessah.” In Chinese, there are almost no words that end in consonant sounds — only n and m — and none have two consecutive consonant sounds in a row — like the st in stop, which is pronounced
“suh-topah.”

“No, team two. Not right,” I say, tapping the board with my marker. “Do you eat breakfast after you go to school?” They look at me without responding. I explain to them again that this is not like Chinese.

(Before-after phrases pose big problems for Chinese students,
because the structure of the phrases is quite different. Thusly, the sentence “I eat breakfast after I wake up” is read as “I eat breakfast. After that, I wake up.”)

They’re still staring at me blankly.

“Jessie,” I ask, “when do you eat breakfast?”

She frowns at me sarcastically and mumbles, “I eat breakfast after I go to school.”

“No!” I growl, “Are you listening?”

I turn to Jack. He and his sister Sherry are the two brightest and liveliest students in the class, displaying a truly advanced ability to learn languages. Jack also provides most of the entertainment in class.

I pose the same question to him, hoping he will rectify our grammatical misunderstanding. But Jack just shrugs and says, “Teacher, I eat breakfast after I
go to school.”

“Teacher, may I speak Chinese?” asks Sherry.

I nod.

After Sherry’s complaint has been registered, my co-teacher looks to me. “Yeah, Robert,” she says, as calm and soft-spoken as always, “You do know that in Taiwan
most students eat breakfast at school, right?”

“Nope.”

She lets a big smile cross her face, “They do.”

I turn to the class. “Really?”

“Yessah!” they blurt out in unison.

“What time do you go to school?” I ask.

I get several different answers, all of them between 7 and 7:30 in the morning.

I sit down in an empty desk, utterly dumbfounded by this. I inquire as to when they finish school in the afternoon. All answers were between four and five.

When they were telling me this, we were 30 minutes into a two-hour course. It was 7:30p.m., and the sun had set over two hours ago.

At that moment, after four months of teaching here in Taiwan, I realized the sheer pressure on these kids. In the months that have followed, I’ve become progressively more perceptive regarding what Asian education is and isn’t.

One of the driving forces of the Asian economies’ unrelenting ascent of the last several decades has been driven by a culture where education is paramount. Though throughout history in many other parts of the world education at times has been seen as a threat to power or an act of apostasy, scholarship has been a crucial, near-constant part of East Asian culture for more than 2,000 years.

Being the privilege of only noblemen and royalty from Ancient Egypt to modern Europe, the acquisition of knowledge was, in contrast, one of the only means of social mobility in China. This is evident in China’s famous imperial exams which, for 13 centuries were famous for two things: the sheer arduousness of the material — an ever growing body of Chinese literature — and the fact that these exams were open to all men from all social and monetary backgrounds, thusly giving poor families a mechanism with which to pull themselves up. Women were also allowed to participate in the mid-19th century. This sort of social mobility would certainly have been unheard of in the sixth century in most any other part of the world, and, unfortunately, it’s still inconceivable in many places.

Two millennia of tradition don’t die easily. It’s almost impossible to turn on the television or open a newspaper without learning that American children live in a “flat” world. You had better be sharp enough to split atoms, or you’re doomed. Students in the United States are performing miserably in math and science, and just the other day I was stumped when a group of my 12-year-old students put a math problem on the board. With three years of calculus under my belt — granted, growing more and more fuzzy as the years go by — I was sure that the problem my preteen students posed was more complex than anything I had seen until I was a junior or senior [at a private, Catholic] high school.

This, we are told, is why American education must shape up, or we’ll, at the very least, have to start shipping in thousands of talented Asian engineers and scientists to maintain any hold on the world economy — or simply to sustain our infrastructure.

Though I won’t contest that much of this is true — the American education system
must be revolutionized to keep pumping out the brightest students in the world, I’m not sure we need to look at Asia as our paradigm.

Every night, six days a week, I teach students who are forced to perform at nearly superhuman levels. They go to school from roughly seven in the morning to after four in the afternoon five days a week. In addition, they come to English “cram schools,” like the one at which I teach, twice a week late at night, or on Saturdays. It would be bad enough if this were it, but most of students go to math, science and music schools on other nights. During vacation time — summer vacation included — these schools hold special sessions so that students don’t become dim-witted in their indolence.

Yesterday, I gave an oral test to a six year old, and he got a 98. He grinned at me big, satisfied with his accomplishment, and left the testing room. As he passed his mother waiting in the hall, I heard him say in Chinese, “I got a ninety-eight point five!” and I was disturbed by a system that leads a six year old to embellish a near perfect score.

Taiwan inherited the long tradition of Chinese scholarship when the Nationalist Party of China fled the mainland, led by Dr. Sun Yat-sen, in 1949. The imperial exams even persisted here until far into the 20th century, while China plunged into poverty and Mao led all of the country’s intellectuals on a decade-long hayride. Now, Taiwan’s suicide rate among students is second in the world only to Japan.

This system of education, impressive as it is for its longevity and accomplishment, is far from perfect. In the 11th century, Cai Xiang — a famous Chinese scholar, poet, and artist who was himself a product of the imperial examination establishment — lamented a system based on rote memorization, observing that the highest officials and the chief commanders of the border defense were just “literary men,” as opposed to being military scholars or philosophers.

This is still very true in many Asian countries being lauded by the West for their ostensible devotion to education. Students are forced to memorize facts to answer questions correctly, though they may not even know why the answer is correct. Grades are more important than actual knowledge and ability (I have had instances where parents actually do their children’s homework for them!).

So, next time you see Chinese students on Oprah reciting all of the American presidents in order, take it with a grain of salt. When you see that Taiwanese scientists just developed a way to recycle old computers into sturdy building
materials, rest assured most of them were educated at American universities.

While my generation and all those who follow will face much stiffer competition from our peers abroad — which I welcome with open arms — I believe there’s time before we are rendered obsolete. Just don’t let your kids know that. Let them be scared.

 

9 comments:

Mark said...

I've been reading about that same news about the reaction against Sarkozy's "Americanizing" reforms.

I think that for the US system at least, actually failing students who don't know the material would be an immense help from an educational standpoint. Unfortunately, it's nearly impossible from a political standpoint.

One other thing is that I think the US would do better to emulate France's graduation rate. Meaningless degrees that people take just because it's "the next thing to do" are horribly wasteful and dilute the value of the real deal. Here in Taiwan, nearly anyone can go to college, and the degrees have very little meaning at all.

BTW, I've really enjoyed some of your posts recently.

SJL said...

I agree with most of what you said; Taiwan's education is especially not good for creative art; there is no room for experiments and explorations, no good arts come from perfection.

Robert said...

Mark,

What does "I think that for the US system at least, actually failing students who don't know the material would be an immense help from an educational standpoint" mean? Are you saying in the US, kids don't get failed?

I'm sure it happens less than it should, but I know plenty of kids who had to repeat grades.

You said: One other thing is that I think the US would do better to emulate France's graduation rate. Yet, what you said right afterward seems to be exactly what's happening in France: kids are graduating (as you say happens in Taiwan) with diplomas that have absolutely no value, unless they went to grandes écoles (which, in and of itself, means the kid has money and connections).

The only part of the French system that I think the US needs is for US students to have more universal access to education. There needs to be a better way for kids without money to get into good schools.

I'm looking at going to grad school in a couple of years, and my biggest worry is how the hell I'm going to afford the up to forty grand some of my favorite schools charge.

Robert said...

Oh, and I'm really glad you've enjoyed the posts recently. I appreciate even more your comments lately. I like the fact that people who don't always agree will come out and say it.

I like those kind of comments more than the ones who just agree with me, not that I don't like those, though.

Mark said...

Robert, I mean that not enough students get flunked from either classes or grades, until college. There is an immense pressure on teachers to continue to inflate grades and to pass students who haven't learned the material.

SJI, believe it or not, art is one of the areas I've been most impressed with Taiwanese grade school students. All of my current students, including the 2nd graders draw pretty well. I suppose it could be due to the popularity of comic books here, though. BTW, I notice you took down the comments on your blog... did you find out which Taiwanese bank gave your foreign friend a debit card?

Mark said...

Oh, Robert, one other thing. Did you watch the video on my post? Michael told me he didn't, which is probably why he latched onto the footnote at the end of the post about Taiwan, and I'm almost certain that Nostalgiaphile didn't watch it either, based on his own blog reaction.

In over an hour of video, Taiwan wasn't even mentioned once. The film was about US schools, and included footage from public, and private schools there and in Belgium. The main topic of it was the voucher system (which Michael, Nostalgiaphile, and nearly all my commenters ignored).

Robert said...

I watched the video. Look at the second link in the post. I wrote about the video on a blog I kept while I lived in Paris.

I think it's a good report.

Mark said...

It is interesting that Sweden, a country with one of the "purest" voucher systems around is at the top of all of those graphs. This goes along with the slant of the (extremely pro-voucher) video, but against the general belief that vouchers are only popular in right-leaning areas.

Do you have any impression of primary and secondary level French schools specifically? I realize you probably never had a chance to attend or teach at one, but what did your friends say about them?

Robert said...

I couldn't tell you definitively. Only that living in France, aside from giving me the opportunity to take a second look at the US, also gave me a completely Utopian view of Scandinavian countries. My professors were constantly talking about how horrible something was in Europe, "sauf la Suéde, bien entendu."

Finland, I think, has a similar system of education.

There are problems though. At the university level in Sweden, I've heard that there are a lot of people who can't find jobs, so they just stay in university, getting student subsidies.

But, as for specifics about the lower levels, I don't know much. All of my French friends complain to me most about the fact that in France, in all levels, even in university (which was certainly my experience) classes proceed thusly: teacher talks, you take notes, that's it. There is very little discussion and debate.